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from Stewart and Styring's Flags, Funnels and Hull Colors 1963
James Fisher & Sons Ltd.
by Al Fisher, 29 Jan 1999
James Nourse Ltd
by Phil Nelson, 9 April 2000
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John Milligen & Co., Ltd.
by Phil Nelson, 8 April 2000
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Kyle Shipping Co. Ltd.
by Phil Nelson, 11 April 2000
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Lamport & Holt Line Ltd.
by Phil Nelson, 9 April 2000
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Corporation of Lloyds
by António Martins, 28 March 2000
by António Martins, 28 March 2000
A company flag of Lloyds. From: I. O. Evans 'The Observer Book of Flags', 1959: 'The St. George's Cross, red on white, distinguishes a number of civic flags associated with London. That of the city of London bears in the canton, in red, the sword which beheaded St. Paul <...> On the shield which forms the badge of the Corporation of Lloyd's the Cross and Sword of London City are placed above a foul anchor in gold. Lloyd's signal stations fly a blue ensign with this badge in the fly; Lloyd's burgee for boats places it in the canton of a long pennant whose field shows a St. George's Cross with its arms traversed by a narrow blue cross.'
Jarig Bakker, 21 December 1999
Lloyd's boats were entitled to fly a Blue Ensign with their badge: Admiralty Warrant 9th September 1882.
This is now used only ashore at Lloyd's offices and occasionally at Gibraltar Signal Station.
David Prothero, 27 December 1999
I chanced upon some more information about Lloyd's flags in ADM 1/8950.
1882. Admiralty Warrant for Blue Ensign with Lloyd's badge in the fly. 9 Sep 1882.
1894. Lloyd's asked for permission to fly a white ensign with a blue overall St George's cross and their badge in the fly (presumably in the fourth quarter). Admiralty refused to allow it for use on boats because it would have been too much like the RN White Ensign, but did not have the authority to ban its use on signal stations. However Lloyd's dropped the idea.
1896. Admiralty approved white ensign with Lloyd's badge in the fly and no overall cross for Signal Stations. Flags of this design had probably been in use since 1894.
1900. Admiralty suggested that this flag should not be flown.
1904. Admiralty agreed that there was no harm in this flag being flown at Signal Stations abroad.
1914. Use of Lloyd's white ensign abandoned.
There is some inconsistency here in that Admiralty are said to have no authority over flags ashore, but are then approving a flag for a Signal Station. I think the explanation is that although the Admiralty's authority legally extended only to flags flown at sea, and on rivers, lakes and inland waters, they claimed the right to regulate the use of any flag that looked similar to a maritime flag. Thus yacht clubs that had warrants for Blue or Red Ensigns defaced with their club badge in the fly, were not allowed to fly them ashore at their club-house. RN barracks could fly the White Ensign because they were considered to be extensions of ships-of-war, but Dockyards and Naval Hospitals had to fly the Union Jack. An exception was made for
Customs and Excise who were allowed to fly the Customs ensign on Customs Houses.
David Prothero, 29 January 2000
An incorrect image of a supposed Lloyds flag as a red ensign was found in a series of Danish stickers issued by Danmark Coffee Co. (circa 1935).
Ole Andersen, 21 December 1999
The Lloyd's badge on a blue disc on a Red Ensign is an error. It is perhaps a misinterpretation of the Admiralty Flag Book. Badges that appeared direct on Blue or Red Ensigns, but did not appear
on UJs, were shown on a blue circle or red circle respectively.
David Prothero, 30 December 1999
Lloyd's Yacht Club was founded 1938 and granted the defaced Red Ensign 1950.
Here is a picture of it in use from
http://www.bellandclements.com/whatsnew/.
David Prothero, Ole Anderson, 28 March 2003
Lyle Shipping Co. Ltd.
by Phil Nelson, 11 April 2000
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Manchester Lines, Ltd.
by Phil Nelson, 10 April 2000
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Maritime Shipping & Trading Co., Ltd.
by Phil Nelson, 8 April 2000
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McAndrews Shipping Company, Ltd.
by Aingeru Astui Zarraga, 25 April 2002
Interestingly, the MacAndrews logo that appears in the "Carga e Transportes" supplement is very different. All these last images have been taken from the same ad, an ad to MacAndrews, that includes these companies it operates with in Portugal: Bank Line, already sent, New Guinea Pacific Line and Crocodile Line, also already sent, plus two more: Ellerman, a company that has three lines from Lisbon or from Leixões (to the British Isles, to the Mediterranean and to India, Pakistan, Middle East and East Africa), and APL, a company that serves the US and Canada and the Far East.
The logo of MacAndrews (or, better, MacAndrews Lda. / Group Andrew Weir Shipping as the full writing appears in the ad) is not only green, but quite a bit more complicated than appears in Aingeru's image, including a crown and a pair of hands holding the ship:
by Jorge Candeias, 25 April 2002
The logo with the crown and a pair of hands holding the ship belongs to Andrew
Weir Shipping Ltd. The one of McAndrews is simpler.
Aingeru Astui Zarraga, 26 April 2002
Moss Hutchinson Line, Ltd. had a blue-white-red vertical tricolor with what
appears to be the thistle in the white stripe. They had 2 fleets- the Spanish
Peninsula fleet flew that flag in combination with a red pennant (possibly
bordered in blue or white, but unclear) with a white Maltese cross and white
letters M & H on either side of the cross; their Mediterranean fleet flew only
the pennant.
Source: Stewart (1953)
Ned Smith, 1 July 2003
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Mullion & Co., Ltd
by Phil Nelson, 7 April 2000
from Stewart and Styring's Flags, Funnels and Hull Colors 1963