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"State Flag"
by TF Mills , 11 December 1997
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I just returned from a trip to Ecuador, and I made a few flag
observations while I was there. When I arrived in November there
was little evidence of flags except over government buildings.
But during the week of the Quito Fiesta the Ecuadoran and Quito
flags appeared on just about every storefront, balcony, window
and chimney pot. The fiesta celebrates the re-founding of Quito
on 6 Dec. 1534 by Spanish General Benalcazar. Quito had
pre-existed for some 4000 years, but Inca general Ruminahui had
evactuated and razed the city a few days earlier.
Below is the Ecuadoran flag with no coat of arms (see Civil Flag). This flag differs from Colombia's
only in its proportions (which means they cannot be
differentiated unless they are side by side and correctly
manufactured.) I assume this is the civil flag. Almost all the
Ecuadoran flags on display were incorrectly proportioned and
showed the national coat of arms (which I assume to be the state
flag version). The relative size of the coa varied from about
half the height to almost the full height of the field. I assume
the people feel the need to include the coa to differentiate
their flag from neighboring Colombia's, even if it is not
strictly correct to do so.
The colours of the Ecuadoran flag are said to represent:
The flags of Ecuador, Colombia and Venezuela are almost
identical because at independence in 1822 they formed a
confederation (Gran Colombia). They
parted ways in 1830, but retained the same essential flag whose
inspiration and design is attributed to freedom fighter General
Francisco Miranda.
TF Mills, 11 December 1997
The Ecuatorian flag is very similar to the Venezuelan and the
Colombian Flag. This happens because these three nations (under
the names of Guayaquil, Venezuela and Nueva Granada) formed, back
in the 1820s, the Great Colombia Republic (GCR),
and then adopted the MIrandinian-venezuelan tricolori. The ratio
of this flag, however, differs from its sister flags: it's 1:2,
whereas the Colombian and Venezuelan flags are 2:3. The civil
flag wears only the tricolori, the state flag, as happens with
Colombia and Venezuela, also sports the country's CoA. In 1860,
Ecuador adopted the flag we know today.
The symbolism of the flag is analogous to those of CO and VE;
being as follows:
Yellow, for the riches of the land and the warmth of the sun.
Blue, for the seas and sky which divide us form our motherland,
Spain; and, Red, for the blood shed by the patrotical soldiers
and martyrs of the independence wars.
Guillermo Aveledo, 8 October 1999
On September 26, 1860, Gabriel Garcia Moreno, Supreme Chief of
Government, decreed the flag change to its present (and ancient)
colours, adopting the ratio 1:2 which differentiates Ecuador flag
to that of Colombia (which would adopt the same distribution of
its tricolori the following year).
Guillermo Aveledo, 9 October 1999
I´m from Ecuador, and it seems that you got there two
versions of the ecuadorian flag, one as the "civilian
flag", the other as the "state flag". But there is
no such thing as a civilian flag. The thing is that here it is
very common for people that make their own flag to
"pass" the coat of arms, because of its difficulty. But
there is only one flag, and it is the one with the coat of arms.
It is really a mistake that people forget to put on their flag
the coat of arms, but they dont really give it that much of
importance, because when celebrating a national day, and showing
one´s patriotism,
everything counts!!!
Carlos, 21 March 2000
Every publication seems to use a different eagle. at
"Nouveau Petit Larousse Illustre" (1924) it is flying
up looking towards the fly, but I'm sure I've seen flying up
looking towards the hoist, and floating looking towards the hoist
as well.
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 29 October 2000
According to [pay00] , the
plain flag of Ecuador, do not exist officially.
Jan Zrzavy, 14 January 2001
In Ecuador the civil flag and civil ensign is without arms,
possibly no one cares about private use of flag with CoA. On <www.explored.com.ec/ecuador/index.htm>
you find a link to the national flag, where the state flag (with
CoA) is illustrated, but the text "Nacional del
Ecuador" discribes the plain tricolored flag. Although the
text mentiones the decree of 1900 it does not say anything about
later changes. I do not believe that the civil ensign is with CoA
as this might lead to confusion with the Colombian civil ensign,
which is the same flag with a badge in the center. I think the
flag with CoA is preferred in articles, maps etc. to distinguish
it from the flag of Colombia, but the official civil flag is
without CoA.
Ralf Stelter, 16 January 2001 and 25 Febuary 2001
According to [pay00] -
National Flag. CSW/CS- (1:2) - Note explains that private
citizens sometimes fly unofficial flag without CoA. It seems to
me that the distinction in usage between the flag with CoA and
that one without is not quite clear (nither on FOTW nor in
Album), and would require more investigation. The original
edition of Albium 2000 have here the CoA that is greatly
oversized, and as Armand explained, it should be made smaller,
with hieght equal to 1/2 hoist size. Interesting, previous
edition of Album has it right.
Zeljko Heimer, 1 August 2001
The Flaggenbuch (1939-41) section dedicated to Ecuador
captioned it as "State ensign, used as standard of the State
President, war ensign, jack of the warships, ceremonial ensign,
service ensign inside the country and abroad."
Ivan Sache, 2 August 2001
While it appears that the tendency has become (similar to
Spain and Argentina) to use the flag with the arms on land (both
inside and especially outside the nation), this does not
necessarily mean that Ecuadorian merchant ships automatically
wear the flag with the arms. The few Ecuadorian
merchantmen I have seen (visiting Houston TX, USA) wore the
plain tricolor; While the role as "civil flag" may be
fading, I wonder whether the established role as "civil
ensign" should be discounted, unless legislation
specifically abolishes the longstanding practice at sea.
James T. Liston, 25 November 2001
Today I saw on TV, part of ceremony of assumption of the new
president of the Republic of Ecuador. As you can imagine, I
observed in detail the Ecuadorian National flag and presidential
band. From that observation I can comment two things:
- the shade of blue of the Ecuadorian flag (and the presidential
band too) is darker than the blue one on the flags of Venezuela
and Colombia. Generally, as much in books of international
Vexillology or Web Pages usually shows the three flags
(Venezuela, Colombia and Ecuador) with similar shades of such
colors, but the "Ecuadorian blue" is very dark (nearer
to the shade of blue called "turqui"). That's saw
clearly today.
- Another thing which taked my attention was the Ecuadorian
presidential band, something distant of the design usually
followed on Latin American presidential bands (to almost
reproduce exactly the disposition of the flag, with the National
Coat of Arms on the center). The Ecuadorian band apparently is
formed by three equal strips (reproducing the Miranda's flag of
three strips of equal wide like in Venezuela), difference it from
the Ecuadorian Flag which has the yellow stripe with double wide,
like in Colombia. Another detail which interested to me was that
in addition to the Coat of Arms the band has embroidering along
the text: "MI PODER" ("MY POWER")
(embroidered shield)"EN LA CONSTITUCIÖN" ("IN THE
CONSTITUTION").
Francisco Gregoric (translated by Raul Orta),
15 January 2003
Dean McGee wrote: "Interesting, in English,
"turquoise" is usually a light, greenish blue."
As I reported, the Ecuadorian Blue looks darker than the
Venezuelan and Colombian blue. You can see the Presidential Band
of Ecuador at the CNN en Español Homepage: at <cnnenespanol.com>.
The "turqui" blue for us is a blue with a little black.
In Argentina it was used by Federalists in the XIXth Century
instead of the "Celeste" or Sky blue in the Argentine
Flag. I think that the colour you call "turquoise" is
the colour we call "turquesa" in Spanish (light,
greenish blue). Turquesa is also the name of a greenish blue
mineral very common in Mexico and south of the USA used for
jewelry For Spanish speakers "turquí" is a dark shadow
of blue.
Francisco Gregoric, 17 January 2003
"Civil Flag"
by Antonio Martins, 22 April 1999
Ecuadorian army units carry the national flag (bandera
nacional) in an approximately square format with the national
coat of arms embroidered on the center and with the unit
designation in an arc of gold letters above the coat of arms and
in a straight line below it; gold fringe. The finial is a
gilt condor with wings spread. The cravat is red with gold
fringe and the flag is tied to the staff with yellow cords.
Source: pictures at <www.fuerzasarmadasecuador.org>.
In addition, photographs show other flags, apparently unit flags,
of various designs being carried in troop formations. See
<www.fuerzasarmadasecuador.org>.
Joe McMillan, 1 March 2002
by Santiago Dotor, 26 January 2001
Yesterday the Spanish Undersecretary for Immigration travelled
to Ecuador to negotiate an agreement on the immigrants' quota.
Images on TV showed crowds of people waving small plastic flags.
Some looked handmade, others more or less industry manufactured.
There were of course many mistaken variants, for instance the
Spanish flag was shown with stripes of equal width, the
Ecuatorian flag with the stripes in reverse order, also in
mistaken order.
However there was one flag, apparently a variant of the
Ecuatorian one, which struck me particularly. Firstly because it
had too many differences with the national flag, secondly because
many people were displaying exactly the same flag, thirdly
because it did not look like being homemade but printed on
plastic.
It was a triband of light green, yellow, red, in proportions
2+1+1. It does not seem to appear in any of the Ecuatorian flags'
pages in FOTW.
Santiago Dotor, 26 January 2001
Could that be a version of the State Flag of El Oro, without the national flag at the
canton?
Miles Li, 26 January 2001
Well, it could, but... it looks more like a coincidence. To
start with, El Oro is quite far away from Quito (the Ecuatorian
capital) to drive so many demostrators over there. Secondly, the
flag mentioned by Miles Li appears in FOTW under the heading
"Previously reported two WRONG flags" and with a
footnote "by Zeljko Heimer, 15 July 1996 (flag according to
W.Smith (insecure))". Thirdly, it certainly has a canton
which the flags I saw lacked. Fourthly, the shade of green was
much lighter in those flags.
Santiago Dotor, 26 January 2001
I saw that flag too for a few seconds, but to me it seems as
2:1:2.
At http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20010121/wl/spain_immigrants_protes.html
there is a image is related with the one reported by Santiago. It
seems to be a bolivian flag (caption say Ecuadorian flag bust is
clearly wrong). Perhaps people from Bolivia is between the
imigrants. I agree with Santiago, the yellow stripe in the flag
seen was narrower
Jaume Ollé, 26 January 2001
No, I could see it for longer period and it was definitely
2:1:1. No doubt about that point, nor about the (light) shade of
green. That flag at dailynews.yahoo.com
is probably nothing to do with the one I spotted. It is being
flown by South American immigrants in Spain, so it might be any
South American flag, and most probably it is Bolivian immigrants
who appear in the picture.
The flags I spotted were being flown at the Ecuatorian capital
(Quito), by many people (all waving the same flag, all new,
manufactured flags) welcoming (or perhaps demonstrating against!)
the Spanish Undersecretary for Immigration. And the colours
showed regular shades for both red and yellow, but a very bright
green.
Santiago Dotor, 29 January 2001