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by Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
by Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
I posted to Mr. Rukkas (Ukraine) those flags, pictured in
Banderas 50 (page 14) in an article by Jose Maria Montells based
on information provided by the independist Ukranian Orest Kanelyn
Romanischin. In the article, in spanish, it was said:
"President Hruschevsky adopted a blue flag with the golden
trident of St Wladirmir bordered from a orle of Laurel (sinople)
in its center, and with a bordure of triangles blue and yellow
separated from the flag with narrow lines of blue and red in four
sides"
Mr. Rukkas posted me the following answer:
"On the 29th of April, 1918 Ukrainain Parlament (Central
Rada) elected Michael Hrushewsky to be the president of Ukrainian
People's Republic. And next day Hetman Skoropadsky's coup d'etat
took place. So, Hrushevsky enjoied his new office for less then
one day. The flag you posted was designed well before
Hrushevsky's election. It was forseen for future president. But
as you see Hrushevsky could not use it becouse lack of time. That
is why I suggest to call this flag as that of President of
Ukrainian People's Republic (not mentioning about M.Hrushevsky).
To my mind it looks more correct.
by Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
Concerning the image of above mentioned flag. I have a picture of the flag of the President of Ukrainian People's Republic (adopted in January, 1918) but it differes form that you sent. My flag is just plain blue with the same coat of arms (as you depicted) in the center. There is no blue/yellow triangles and blue/red outlineage.
by Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
Moreover, I have an image of proposed presidental flag which
was designed in 1920 by Ukrainian artist M.Bytynski for
S.Petlura, the Head of Ukrainian People's Republic restored after
hetman's abdication in November, 1918. And this flag has all the
features I told about before (blue/yellow triangles and blue/red
outlineage). But instead of coat of arms in the center there is
small yellow-blue national flag in the canton.
It looks like your flag is comprised of the elements taken from
two different flags. It is only my guess. Please, provide me with
the source of your flag to check this info and thus, clarify the
mess. I am sending you the flag I have. So, you will be able to
compare my images and yours. Want to underline that is only my
guess, quite possible that even three flag existed."
Concering the 1920 proposal And the 1920 proposal, note that
the flag is yellow over blue while in the era that in use was the
blue over yellow. I hear also that this flag was the one of the
president in exile, but its not excluded that was adopted before
the end of the peoples republic/
Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
by Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
Minister of Health (only in Philippe).
Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
by Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
Minister of Transport (only in Montells).
Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
by Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
Lan Otaman or Governor Starotsa (I don't know what its
mean) (only in Philippe).
Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
by Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
Minister-resident (only in Montells with black trident).
Montells quote that charge d'affairs and consuls have same flag
but each one with different device in canton, but those devices
are not shown.
Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
by Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
by Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
Ambassadors (Only Montells, trident shown black).
Jaume Olle, 31 August 2001
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