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Today I recieved an answer from "Urad Bratislavskeho samospravneho kraja"
regarding its flag. The attached image was made in Microsoft Excel (!)
and presented as hanging vertically. It is another example of "Kosice
pattern".
Description ( from the hoist to the fly): quartered field with vertical
line in 1/3 of the field (although we see it like a horizontal line :-);
first and 4th fields are blue (i. e. upper left and lower right field),
2nd field (upper right one) is yellow and 3rd field (lower left) white.
So probably the white field would be upper fly, if the flag were horizontally
hung.
It really seems like try to introduce an official model for regional
flags in Slovakia, however Trencín and Presov Regions spoiled this
"splendid unity" with striped fields.
Aleš Křížan, 4 Dec 2002
This site (at this time working
- click "Symboly") shows it with yellow field in canton (upper hoist) and
white field in lower fly. There is also bigger image of CoA (wavy bar represents
rivers Danube, Morava and their confluence in Bratislava - Devin) and official
seal.
Aleš Křížan, 11 Dec 2002
Yesterday I foud out newly adopted Coat of Arms of Bratislavsky samospravny
kraj (Bratislava self- governed region) or rather Vyšší územný celok (Higher
territorial unit) Bratislavský. The matter of Slovak subdivisions is more
complicated that it seems to be. Nowadays on regional level there are State
adminstrative offices called Krajske urady (sg. Krajsky úrad) with a Head
called "prednosta" and Self- government entities called Vyššie
územné celky (Higher territorial units, sg. Vyšší územný celok -
VÚC). Elected representation of Self governning is led by Chairman
of VUC ("predseda VÚC"). "Zupan" is unofficial title. "Prednosta"
is an appointed officer, "predseda" is elected member of regional
parliament. To make things more complicated (even I don´t understand the
system) also VÚC has its own office called Úrad samosprávneho kraja
or something. Nowadays both kind of Regions has the same territory, but
self- government is fighting with state administration for buildings etc.
and changes of number of VÚC are discussed. Nobody nows, how many VÚC will
Slovakia have in the end of this year (and how many flags they will have:
). Maybe some more historical provincial symbols will be restored and some
provinces too.
Bratislavský samosprávny kraj / Self-governing Bratislava region
- Some excerpts from Slovak press, concerning this region:
From stolice through counties/župy to samosprávne kraje 21.12.2001
TA SR (Press Agency of the Slovak Republic)
Bratislava December 21 (TASR) -
Approved Arms of Bratislavský samosprávny kraj will symbolise respect
to almost 450 Years of Self - Government in Bratislava region. This
is also the reason (according to Higher Territorial Unit Chairman (predseda
Vyššieho územného celku/VÚC) Lubo Roman),why is it so close to Coat of
Arms of Hereditary Counts of Bratislava (of Pálffy. In contradiction to
Pállfy Arms, (Azure on a Triple Mount Vert a Half Wheel Or (sometimes Gules)
a Stag rising Or) in Arms of VÚC was triple hill replaced by a wavy
bar. The latter should point out historical and contemporary geopolitical
meaning of Danubian City Bratislava. VÚC are today wrongly seen and compared
with historical counties (župy, sg. župa). Their development begun in
post-revolution Years 1848 - 1849 and ended in 1928. ... they replaced
self- governed stolice (Sedes in Latin, Stühle in German) of nobility.
Origin of it we can find in the begin of 14. Cent. ...
In fact the name of historical County and of the city before 1919 was
Pozsony, in German Presburg, in Slovakian Prešporok, which were the
names of Bratislava before
So Bratislavský kraj has PROPOSAL for its Arms, modelled by historical
Pozsony Province. We don´t know, if the Ministry of Intern (supreme heraldical
authority in Slovakia) already granted these symbols.
Regional parliaments members pledge of representative 19.12.2001 SITA
(whole name of this Press Agency unknown to me) Pledge of representative
was taken by Chairman of Bratislavský samosprávny kraj Lubo Roman and by
present representatives the regional parliament (altogether 46 members)
on todays festival in Primaciálny palác in Bratislava. Bratislavský
samosprávny kraj will be characterised by yellow - blue - white flag,
seal and Arms with depiction of a stag and Danube, which should remain
family of hereditary Counts (župan, Ispán) Pálffy....
Aleš Křížan, 21 Mar 2002
The origin of the Coat of Arms of Bratislava Region:
The Coat of Arms of Pozsony county, Kingdom of Hungary.
See Ralf Hartemink's
site:
Used ~1599-1920.
This CoA was originally the CoA of the Pálffy family. The Pálffy family
became the Lord Lieutenant of Pozsony county after general Nicolaus Pálffy
reoccupied Castle of Győr from the Turkish.
The origin of the Pálffy's Coa was the CoA of the Erdődy family formerly
Bakócz family. The CoA relates to an accidents with a deer....
The former Pozsony county was 4370 km2. 4323 km2 was detached
to Czechoslovakia by the Treaty of Trianon (1920), 43 km2 was detached
to Czechoslovakia by the Treaty of Paris (1947). Now 4 km2 of
the formerly Pozsony county is part of Hungary
István Molnár, 21 Mar 2002
The same deer rising from a wheel, is dispayed on the county CoA (and
flag) of Varazdin County in Croatia, as well as
in a number of other modern and historical CoAs (and flags) in Croatia.
The Erdody and Palffy families were rather influential and earned a good
deal of their fame in fighting against Turks.
Zeljko Heimer, 24 Mar 2002