Last modified: 2002-07-13 by elias granqvist
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![[Hakon A. Reuter]](../images/s/se~s0282.gif)
by Phil Nelson, 2000-Sep-20
Source: Colin Stewart and John B. Styring: Flags, Funnels and Hull Colours, 1963 [ssy63].
Reut & Reuter, Onsala.
Ole Andersen, 2000-Sep-20
![[Sven Salén A/B]](../images/s/se~s0887.gif)
by Phil Nelson, 2000-Sep-22
Source: Colin Stewart and John B. Styring: Flags, Funnels and Hull Colours, 1963 [ssy63].
![[Scandlines]](../images/s/se~scand.gif)
by António Martins-Tuvalkin, 1999-Oct-21
Scandlines, a company operating several ferry lines in the Baltic and North Sea. Its house flag features the company logo, three parallelograms blue, red and yellow, forming a triangle pointing down. The background was usually white, both in real flags on board and at the Swedish side (and also on logos in brochures and inside the ferries), but at the Helsingør harbour I spotted a row of some four or five flag poles flying the same flag but with a dark blue background.
António Martins-Tuvalkin, 1999-Oct-21
![[Sea-Link]](../images/s/se~sealk.gif)
by Jorge Candeias, March 1999
Another dubious flag. If it's a flag, then it would be white with green stripes along the top and bottom and a very dark blue logo centered. The logo is composed of what could be described as three interconnected tildes forming the letters "SL"
Jorge Candeias, 6 March 1999
![[Skånska Cement]](../images/s/se~s0630.gif)
by Phil Nelson, 2000-Sep-22
Source: Colin Stewart and John B. Styring: Flags, Funnels and Hull Colours, 1963 [ssy63].
Skånska Cement was named Cementa 1969-1973 and from 1973 it was called Euroc. Euroc merged with the Norweigan company Aker in 1996, and they got the name Scancem.
"Established in 1871, Scancem was first listed on the Stockholm Stock Exchange in 1900. In July 1999, the German Heidelberger Zement and the Belgian Cimenteries CBR S.A. acquired 73.4 percent of the share capital and 90.8 percent of the voting rights. In late August, the two companies launched a tender offer to acquire the remaining outstanding shares of Scancem."Quoted from http://www.euroc.se
Immediately before this purchase in 1999, the major owners where Skanska and Aker RGI. (Skanska, formerly known as Skånska Cementgjuteriet, was originally a daughter company of Skånska Cement, but was made independent in 1887.)
Scancem is situated in Malmo. It doesn't seem as they have any ships of their own at present.
Elias Granqvist, 2000-Sep-22
![[Stena line]](../images/s/se~stena.gif)
by Jorge Candeias, February 1999; Jarig Bakker, 4 August 2001
The original picture was too small to see clearly, but it is possible that narrow white fimbriations exist between the blue and the red.
Jorge Candeias, 5 February 1999
The flag should have white fimbriations between the red and blue fields, just as Jorge Candeias suppose could be the case. I saw it in the news on TV the other day.
Elias Granqvist, 19 November 2000
As I sailed under this flag from Hoek van Holland to Harwich and back I could convince myself of the presence [of small white stripes] ... I've adjusted Jorge's gif a bit.
Jarig Bakker, 4 August 2001
![[Sundbusserne houseflag]](../images/n/no~sbhh.gif)
by António Martins
![[Sundebus HH land-based houseflag]](../images/n/no_sbhh.gif)
by António Martins
The small ferry that took us to and fro [between Helsingborg in Sweden and Helsingør in Denmark, in August '98] belonged to Sundebus HH, and it's houseflag is a 2:3 blue over red per bend with an white uppercase sans serif "M".
Why an "M", I don't know but I can only speculate that this particular houseflag once bellonged to a company called "M"-something which was renamed or bought or merged to Sundebus HH. This may imply that house flags are somehow fixed for sea usage and it is not that easy to change them, like company logos and such (like logo flags for land use). This idea of mine (that might add some weight to the notion that house flags are not that irrelevant) is reforced by the fact that this very same company Sundebus HH uses in land (poles by the company peer, ticket office etc.) a completely different flag, consisting of a red upper case serif "S" (for Sundebus), on a red bordered white square canton of a 3:2 (and not 2:3!) white and green wavy background.
António Martins, 21 October 1999
Sundbusserne, with HH not part of the
company name, rather representing the two cities the ferries
are running
between, Helsingør and Helsingborg, is no longer running Norwegian
colours. They flaged over to the Swedish ship registry and they are
running Swedish flag from September 2001. The Sundbusserne
are however
still a daughter company of the shipowning company A/S
Moltzaus Tankrederi
in Oslo. (Hence the M in the houseflag – M for Moltzau). Moltzaus have no
longer any other ships than Sundbusserne.
At the Sundbusserne home page [http://www.sundbusserne.dk/] you can find the Sundbusserne logo that seems to be the model of the speculated secondary houseflag of Sundbusserne. As far as I know, it is no houseflag, only a company logo.
Morten Øen, 20 December 2001
Editor's note: See the former page on Sundbusserne regarding its earlier use of national flags.
![[Svea, Stockholms Rederi A/B]](../images/s/se~s0124.gif)
by Phil Nelson, 2000-Sep-22
Source: Colin Stewart and John B. Styring: Flags, Funnels and Hull Colours, 1963 [ssy63].
http://w1.435.telia.com/~u43505985/SHIPP1.HTML has this one too, but with a more centered S (and uneven swallow-tails?).
Ole Andersen, 2000-Sep-22
I am puzzled by the symetric "Swedish" cross in canton. Could it be that the use of the national flag on a private ensign is not allowed by law, so that Svea had to slightly modify it?
Ivan Sache, 2000-Sep-22
Could be. I think it's more likely to be a national flag, only misrepresented in the book.
Ole Andersen, 2000-Sep-22
There is no such prohibition. I would suppose the centred cross could have two possible reasons: 1. It could be that they don't want to have a direct connection to the national flag of Sweden, but have a Swedish connection anyway. "Svea" is a name for the personification of Sweden (Moder Svea, "Mother Svea", a blond, middle aged woman, usually in a blue dress with gold crowns on it (like the crowns on the shield of the state arms) and a similar crown on the head). 2. It could be that they made a misstake when designing the flag.
Elias Granqvist, 2000-Sep-22
I experienced the time when the ships of Svea came and went in the
harbour of Stockholm.
I have no memory of Svea having a small Swedish flag in the house
flag.
The S was on the other hand bolder than in the image.
Richard Roosvall, May 2001 [translated from Swedish]
Taking a look at Svea in Brown's Flags and Funnels, 1978, which is a
few years later than the source in my original image there are a few
differences.
The Swedish flag appears more along the lines of a Scandinavian cross
as anticipated by Ole back at the time of the original posting.
Additionally, the 'S' in the image is more san serif v. the serif
letter in the [ssy63] source.
Phil Nelson, 1 June 2001
![[Swedish Orient Line]](../images/s/se~sol.gif)
by Jorge Candeias, March 1999
Swedish Orient Line (Sweden) - White with a blue disc centered, charged with the three crowns of Sweden. I've got a question on this. These three crowns have the dignity of a state symbol in Sweden. Although, some other houseflags "borrow" colours and/or flag designs from their home-countries, none of them has this strong connection to the state symbols. Doesn't it arise some discussion in Sweden to see the three crowns on a private flag?
Jorge Candeias, 21 March 1999
Swedish Orient Line (SOL) was founded in 1911 and belonged to Ångfartygs AB Tirfing, later the Broström group. During the years 1984-1991 it belonged to the Transatlantic group. SOL is situated in Gothenburg. It has shipping lines mainly between the Blatic Sea and the Mediterranean.
According to information on the homepage, at http://www.sollines.se/, many of the services are now operated in the name SolNiver Lines, a joint venture with Scan Orient Shipping Co. Ltd. which is a subsidiary of the Greek shipping company Niver Lines. SOL holds 60 % of the shares in SolNiver Lines. However, I did not find any information about any house flag for SolNiver Lines.
Elias Granqvist, 17 March 2001
![[Svenska Rederi A/B Öresund]](../images/s/se~s0568.gif)
by Phil Nelson, 2000-Sep-22
Source: Colin Stewart and John B. Styring: Flags, Funnels and Hull Colours, 1963 [ssy63].
This is a case of déjà vu. Three years or so ago someone had seen the P&O flag in Atlanta, and wondered what it was. I mentioned having seen it in the Sound (the water between Copenhagen and Malmö). This was what I had seen.
Ole Andersen, 2000-Sep-22
![[Sveriges Oljekonsumenters Riksförbund]](../images/s/se~s0867.gif)
by Phil Nelson, 2000-Sep-23
Source: Colin Stewart and John B. Styring: Flags, Funnels and Hull Colours, 1963 [ssy63].
OK is the co-op oil company. In Sweden, their gas stations have merged with Kuwait Petroleum's, IIRC.
Ole Andersen, 2000-Sep-23
That's right. Nowadays, these gas stations have the name "OK Q8", the logo (also used on flags) being two half circles, one blue and one red, side by side with their open ends away from eachother.
Elias Granqvist, 2000-Sep-23
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