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The emblem of Lancashire is the red rose, in contrast to the white rose of
Yorkshire. However, this emblem does not seem to
have been used on a flag. The red rose was originally a symbol of
Lancaster, and seems to have been invented by Henry VII. He however used
the combined "Tudor Rose", so the red rose alone would never have been used.
Nathan Lamm, 9 September 2002
There is also a Lancaster Herald whose
badge is a red rose royally crowned - see www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/about/6.htm
Joe McMillan, 20 February 2002
I'm curious who described the bird on the arms as a cormorant? The
description included sounds more like a Liverbird, one of the two mythical birds
protecting the people of liverpool both in the city and at sea, and included on
most flags and insignia associated with the city.
Glenn Hadikin, 2 April 2002
Carr, 1961, says "Liverpool's arms date
from 1797, when the heralds, having never heard of Litherland close by, were
left to choose between the pool of laver - that is, the seaweed Porphyra - and
the pool of the liver, a bird unknown to naturalists; and, failing to find a
figure of the imaginary bird, they invented a sort of short-necked cormorant,
into whose beak they put a couple of fronds of Porphyra in case it was Liverpool
after all. This very neat instance of heraldic hedging did not, however, meet
with the success it deserved, for the old name was discovered to be Litherpool -
that is, the sluggish pool - yet the cormorant and the seaweed remain, for they
are in the grant."
Carr therefore suggests that cities may use banners of arms.
Jarig Bakker, 2 April 2002
I found an image of the coat of arms in "European Civic Coats of Arms", by
Jiri Louda, 1966. An image can speak a thousand words. The Liverbird is
sheer nonsense (as I reported in my previous message).
Jarig Bakker, 2 April 2002
The special ensign of the Royal Mersey Yacht Club. Founded Birkenhead 1844.
Title 'Royal' granted 23 September 1844. Admiralty Warrant for special ensign
granted 24 September 1844. Original badge was just the Liver bird; crown added
between 1869 and 1875.
David Prothero, 8 Octiber 2002